I have a lot of respect for alternative comedy, but it’s a different challenge to survive and get laughs on mainstream TV while still being hip and smart. It’s a lot more difficult to be a rebel in a sweater. Meaning what exactly—that it’s more difficult to sneak subversive ideas into a mainstream show such as SNL? Yes. It’s incredibly satisfying to slip something strange into the mainstream and have it work. All of my comedy heroes when I was growing up were performers like David Letterman and Steve Martin and Andy Kaufman, and later Larry David. These guys were every bit as smart and extreme and inventive as any performer or writer who cultivated a reputation as being too cool for the masses. But they were just so brilliant and smart that they figured out a way to do what they wanted to do on network TV. I have a lot of respect for that.